Hi guys! I'm just here to ask your thoughts about this certain topic that I know, in one time or another, has befallen us all. What do you think of Unrequited Love? I think a healthy discussion on this matter would be beneficial to us all. Wala lang, just one of my whims. Sakyan nyo na lang! =P
Anyway, on topic:
Is it right to blame your unrequited love for not reciprocating the love/attention you're giving her/him? Or is the act justified because as they say in Filipino, nagmamahal ka lang naman? Wala nga namang masama sa pagmamahal.
Pero do you think one should draw the line somewhere? If yes, when and where? Who's the victim and who's the one who can't get a clue? The one who doesn't seem to notice, or the one who doesn't seem to understand?
A penny for your thoughts. =)
Anyway, on topic:
Is it right to blame your unrequited love for not reciprocating the love/attention you're giving her/him? Or is the act justified because as they say in Filipino, nagmamahal ka lang naman? Wala nga namang masama sa pagmamahal.
Pero do you think one should draw the line somewhere? If yes, when and where? Who's the victim and who's the one who can't get a clue? The one who doesn't seem to notice, or the one who doesn't seem to understand?
A penny for your thoughts. =)
A dime if you tell me that you love me. For more, bayarang pag-ibig.
ReplyDeleteAlam mo na yung thoughts ko dito. At hindi kaya healthy discussion ang discussions on unrequited love! Boo, memories! XD
haha. come to think of it, may point ka sa unrequited love not being a healthy discussion. but that's in a completely different context. =))
ReplyDeleteContext. I have a feeling this word feels oh-so-abused already. XD
ReplyDeletehahahahaha freak. nakaka-asar ang mga topic na ganto! haha
ReplyDeleteanyway, remember that thing i made kwento about during our cr101 overnight? two years na yun dude! =S
i balme myself though, cause actually, i know na it'd go nowhere. but still... <--- exactly what this kind is all about... puro "what-if's" at "what-could've-beens"
freak. i hate "what-if's!!!!"
haha kelangan bang healthy lagi ang discussions? hehe
O sige, iba naman. Background? Environment? Premise? =))
ReplyDeleteObjectivity? Fairness? Balance? XD
ReplyDeleteStalker? Fan? Makati? =))
To answer your last question, yes. Because we're a civilized people. LOLz. =P
ReplyDeletePero yung case mo naman, unrequited ba yun? Based sa kwento mo I surmise ni-reciprocate naman, though unclear. Parang ibang case yan. I'd say it's the "Parang Kayo Pero Hindi Kayo" case. PKPHK in short. =))
Deranged? Bangag? Drugged? Mental? Ayrie. =)) (Oh how I wish Multiply has the ROTFLMAO smiley on YM. :P)
ReplyDeleteaka, the Post-Modern Couple. XD
ReplyDeleteTRUE. Haha.
ReplyDeletehahaha Post-Modernism.. the pros and cons of not labeling things...
ReplyDeleteYou got to love those Post-Modernists. They have enough foresight when it comes to love lives. =))
ReplyDeleteNo, I think they're just too safe to risk. Anyway, that's another topic. Want me to open up a new thread for you dearie? =))
ReplyDeletehoy!bakit ang sexist mo?mga babae lang ba ang nakakaramdam ng unrequited love?wag ka nga dyan.haha
ReplyDeleteOnT: hindi ako naniniwalang may talo at panalo pag nagmahal ka.ang pag-ibig ay hindi isang laro na dapat may mga panuntunan.kapag nagmamahal ka, hindi ka dapat naghihintay ng kapalit. lahat ng tao ay may may chance sa happy ending, so kung hindi ka gusto ng gusto mo, ibig sabihin hindi siya ang para sayo.
pero syempre nagpaka-idealistic na naman ako.sa totoo lang, love is just a state of mind. being in love is a choice.just like being happy.:)
winner ka talaga humirit bunggay. o ayan, edited na for all feminists out there. hehehehe. =P sorry naman, lapse lang. =))
ReplyDeleteOnT: naks. yan naman tayo eh. puno talaga ng idealismo. may point kang walang talo at panalo, pero kung titingnan mo, meron talagang dehado eh. haha. nagpaka-analytic daw ako. so not me. =P
Too safe? :))
ReplyDeleteHay nako, wag na. Hahahaha. Reminds me of Yokomori, ugh. XD
Here's my two cents:
ReplyDeleteBased on my personal experience, talo ka kung ikaw yung na-in love tapos the one you love doesn't feel the same way. Kasi ang nangyayari, bigay ka lang ng bigay tapos wala kang natatanggap in return. Kahit sabihin ng ibang tao na kapag nagmahal ka hindi ka dapat naghahanap ng kapalit, siyempre masakit pa rin kung binabalewala lang yung binibigay mo. Wala lang. :)
Hmmm, you have a point there. Pero kasi, if the other person doesn't love you back, what choice is there for him/her? Hindi ba parang you're putting that person in a corner by parang implying that he/she should react/appreciate/do something about what you're doing?
ReplyDeleteThis is a moral dilemma, I tells you. =))
I know, right? :))
ReplyDeleteAnyway, I get what you're saying. But the thing is, sana naman that person considers the fact that by loving him/her, it's like you're giving him/her a piece of yourself. Corny na kung corny, pero yun yun, 'di ba? Hindi ko naman sinasabi na kailangan mahalin niya rin ako, ang hinihingi ko lang ay konting...what's the word? Appreciation, maybe? Or at least for that person to treat me well, yung tipong hindi niya ako ibabasura. Kung hindi niya talaga ako kayang mahalin, eh di kausapin niya ako para i-explain. I can accept it naman, eh. All I'm asking for is for that person to treat me well. Sana nga hindi niya ako babuyin or whatever.
Idealistic, much? :))
Well, muli, may point ka diyan. Pero sa realm na ng human rights yan. Muhahahaha. Kidding aside, ayun nga, may point ka. Pero halimbawa with guys, who are naturally non-verbal communicators, it's hard to be direct. With girls naman, syempre they consider the emotion of the guy, so minsan mahirap mang-reject. Gets?
ReplyDeleteagain, moral dilemma. =))
meron namang natatanggap sa unrequited love, rejection. hindi nga lang sya positive thing at ayaw syang i-recognize ng utak natin na ganti yun ng taong mahal natin.kasi ang idea natin ng love eh puro maganda.lahat blooming,laging masaya, hindi mabaho ang utot.haha.pero yun nga. i stand by my principle that love is just a state of mind.hahaha
ReplyDeleteAYUN YUN EH. Haha. I guess it's just a matter of how one sees "love" ano? Pero taking the discussion a little bit deeper, who's to blame sa idea natin na'to ng love na sobrang maganda, conquers all and everything? (I can almost here everyone saying in chorus now: MASS MEDIA! LOLz.)
ReplyDeletetrue. or yung mga bwakanangsyet na may-ari ng malalaking korporasyon na ginagawang negosyo lahat ng bagay sa mundo.
ReplyDeleteI go for "Love is just an intensified need." Haha. Isipin mo, ang nagtanong sa akin ng tanong na "What is love" sa loob ng klase ay si.. Soberano. At yan ung sagot na pumasok sa utak ko. Epiphany... In Soberano's class. Anakngkamotengkahoy.
ReplyDeleteSeriously, though, that's what I think. Love is just an intensified need. A need to be with that person, to talk with him, to laugh with him.. God, you even need to be with him just to look at his eyes then everything's fine with the world.
So yun. Love. It's nominal. It's just a word we use to describe a need we can't even try to explain.
Hahaha parang I know where this is going. =P
ReplyDeleteLet's veer away from the topic for a while. Share naman kayo ng unrequited love stories nyo. I don't know if it's just me pero pansinin nyo, madalas yung mga unrequited love stories yung malakas ang kurot sa puso, noh? =P And for more observation, more than half of popular love songs are either because of unrequited love, failed love, or forbidden love. Shet.
hmmm..mukhang may pinaghuhugutan ka JM ah?haha
ReplyDeleteSino si Soberano? Muhaha. How ignorant of me.
ReplyDeleteOnT: pero what to say of selfless love? Kahit walang genuine selfless love as in bigay-todo lang lahat to other people, somehow meron namang qualified selfless love, diba? Is it a need? Or we're forced to think na we're giving pero we're actually receiving something?
Philosophical na ang lebel. for more. =P
Haha. Lahat naman me pinanghuhugutan eh. Iba-iba lang ng lalim. =P
ReplyDeleteso ibig sabihin ba ay nasa ganyang sitwasyon ka ngayon?ayiheee
ReplyDeleteLet's interrupt this discussion for an extremely necessary biological practice. Translation: sleep muna ko. Just carry on with the discussion guys! We're getting better at this. =P
ReplyDeleteHmmm... not necessarily. =P
ReplyDeleteOo nga. It takes a special kind of guy to be direct about something like this. Haay. But you know what? Naisip ko lang, minsan parang mas gusto ko na hindi maging nice yung guy about it, kasi the nicer he is to me, the more I fall for him, and the more I get hurt kasi nga unrequited. :P
ReplyDeleteShare my unrequited love stories? :)) Do you have an hour or two? Ang dami kasi, eh. HAHA! :P
Soberano = menyak prof from Philo. See, this is like me calling Ma'am Melai, ma'am.
ReplyDeleteSelfless love. It's a need, too. At least for me. Why do we love them? Can love really be selfless? Remember that when we give our selves to anything, or anyone for that matter, and then in the end we get hurt.. Well, we get hurt. It's never completely selfless. There comes a time, far far in the future or as near as tomorrow, that we feel pain in being selfless. Kahit for just one second, it will hurt. It's human nature to expect. :)
naku...hindi ko alam. hahaha. well, kapag naman nagmamahal ka, syempre sasabihin mo sa sarili mo na "you expect nothing in return", pero kung titingnan natin sa surrealist point of view, yun ay pawang kasinungalingan. kahit papaano, (sa iyong sub-consciousness) gusto mo na na-a-appreciate ka ng taong pinaglalaanan mo ng pagmamahal.
ReplyDeletejust wanna make it clear: hindi ako surrealist. haha!
basta ang sa 'kin, isang napakalaking kalokohan ang hindi mo pagsabi sa taong mahal mo na mahal mo siya. habang may pagkakataon ka. sabihin mo na, or else, chance will pass you by. haha! alam ko napakaingay ko na since high school. but when it comes to feelings, i become so damn quiet. (well, noon yun.)
haha! out of the topic na yata 'ko. (pasensya na, epekto ito ng pagiging nocturnal. XP
haha! ibahin mo na lang nga ang topic. haha! why not ask, "Ok lang ba sa 'yo na ang babae ang maunang magpahayag ng feelings sa lalake?"
(P.S. naniniwala ako na isa kang blessing sa taong minamahal mo. dahil minamahal mo siya. hindi niya masasabi sa kanyang sarili na walang nagmamahal sa kanya.)
waaahhh...what am i saying?!? inaantok na yata talaga ako.
i-apply na lang natin sa ating buhay ang Umberto Eco Truth...
ReplyDelete"Even if the premise is FALSE, as long as the conclusion is TRUE, then you may still arrive at the correct result."
In Mathematical form: "If P is false but Q is true, then P-->Q is true."
bahala na kayong i-apply 'yan sa usapan dito. or kahit sa pang-araw-araw niyong buhay, pag-isipan niyo kung paano 'yan i-a-apply.
(matutulog na nga ako. PROMISE!!!)
hahaha. unrequited love. ano ba yan. hahahaha.
ReplyDeletei think ang pinaka-importante na word sa phrase na "unrequited love" is the word "LOVE."
naniniwala ako na love should be free. although tao lang tayo, madalas hindi natin mapigilang mag-expect, umasa, at mabaliw sa pag-ibig, at ideal lang naman ang pagiging unconditional ng love, mas masarap isiping posible namang ibigay ang pagmamahal na yon. am i making sense?
hahaha. when you love, you risk getting hurt.
i don't know. maybe i've learned my lesson already. ayoko na umasa, gusto ko nalang siyang mahalin, regardless kung mamahalin niya ako o hindi. martir? hindi rin.
basta alam ko mahal ko lang sia. period.
-->grabe ang haba na ng reply na to.
miss you JM. :D
ay may pinaghuhugutan nga ito ng bonggang-bongga. haha.
ReplyDeleteIs it right to blame your unrequited love for not reciprocating the love/attention you're giving her/him? >> no it's not but you and your friends will blame him kahit pa-joke. wahaha. but you all know at the back of your mind that it's not his fault. therefore pa-joke lang. at therefore, saglit lang yun. :)
Pero do you think one should draw the line somewhere? If yes, when and where? >> yes, pag alam mong wala namang pupuntahan.
Who's the victim? >> both.
i love you ayrie :D
ReplyDeleteeto ang isa pang may pinaghuhugutan :P
ReplyDeletemartir yan els. i love you! :D
ReplyDeleteKamown. Pareho kami ni Julian na magtatagal ng ilang oras ang usapan kapag unrequited love ang topic. Malungkot at masakit lang ang nagmamahal ka ng taong wala namang pakialam sayo. At first, ginagawa mo dahil oo nagmamahal ka. Pero later on, you'll realize na, the person's not worth it. (Talagang may pinaghuhugutan to. Hahaha! =P) Wag na yan. Being in love na lang. *blush* HAHAHAHA! =p
ReplyDeletehindi rin dyan. kasi choice mo naman kung mag-eexpect ka or hindi eh. choice mo kung magiging masaya ka or hindi. ako, happy na ko na mahalin lang siya sa tabi, sa gilid. he doesn't need to know nga eh para wala nalang complications. as long as nakikita ko siyang masaya sa kanya, solve na ko. :D
ReplyDelete^ shet els. grabe. natouch ako dun sa cnbi mo... tagos. amf.
ReplyDeleteWuhoo hot topic. Sige sasagutin ko kayo lahat mamaya ah, nasa NUJP pa ko eh. Pupulis beat muna ko. =))
ReplyDeletehahaha. tagos??? TAGOS??? :D
ReplyDelete^ hahahahaha! tagos kung tagos. amf!
ReplyDeletehindi ako convinced. hehe.
ReplyDeletehindi ka convinced saan?
ReplyDeletena hindi martir yun :P
ReplyDeletehindi nga. kasi kumbaga, wala na ko ineexpect from him. aside from that, ngayon lang naman habang wala pang dumadating at numanakaw ng puso ko. :D
ReplyDeleteO sige sum-up tayo ng mga ideas so far.
ReplyDelete1) Unrequited Love, or any love for that matter, is just an intensified need.
2) Love is merely a state of mind.
3) Unrequited Love does not produce a healthy discussion.
4) There's somehow a need to appreciate the love being given to an unrequited love.
5) Sa surrealist point of view, kahit papano, you want the unrequited to appreciate the love you're giving him/her.
6) Love should be free.
7) Choice mo kung mag-eexpect ka sa isang unrequited love o hindi.
8) You should draw the line somewhere pag alam mong wala nang pupuntahan ang iyong unrequited love.
9) Kelangan verbatim to: "Malungkot at masakit lang ang nagmamahal ka ng taong wala namang pakialam sayo."
Ayun! We definitely got a hot topic here.
Some more points to ponder:
- Is loving someone "from a distance" even loving someone at all? Parang somehow diba kahit papano dapat maramdaman nya?
- From Ayrie: Can love really be selfless? This is a good question. Because "selfless love" means totally forgetting about the self and only thinking of others. Pero diba when we love, we care for that person. I don't know, pero ang iniisip ko, parang kapag selfless love to the nth level, bigay ka lang nang bigay, regardless if what you're giving actually means something to you. Kasi parang... wala lang, diba parang hindi "love" yun, kasi parte naman ng love ang "care" at yung "fulfillment" na natatanggap mo kapag nagmamahal ka diba?
Hmmmm... share na kayo ng unrequited love stories nyo! Tas gawa tayo ng E-Book! Tas ipakalat natin sa buong sang-ka-internet-an! Game?!
O sige sum-up tayo ng mga ideas so far.
ReplyDelete1) Unrequited Love, or any love for that matter, is just an intensified need.
2) Love is merely a state of mind.
3) Unrequited Love does not produce a healthy discussion.
4) There's somehow a need to appreciate the love being given to an unrequited love.
5) Sa surrealist point of view, kahit papano, you want the unrequited to appreciate the love you're giving him/her.
6) Love should be free.
7) Choice mo kung mag-eexpect ka sa isang unrequited love o hindi.
8) You should draw the line somewhere pag alam mong wala nang pupuntahan ang iyong unrequited love.
9) Kelangan verbatim to: "Malungkot at masakit lang ang nagmamahal ka ng taong wala namang pakialam sayo."
Ayun! We definitely got a hot topic here.
Some more points to ponder:
- Is loving someone "from a distance" even loving someone at all? Parang somehow diba kahit papano dapat maramdaman nya?
- From Ayrie: Can love really be selfless? This is a good question. Because "selfless love" means totally forgetting about the self and only thinking of others. Pero diba when we love, we care for that person. I don't know, pero ang iniisip ko, parang kapag selfless love to the nth level, bigay ka lang nang bigay, regardless if what you're giving actually means something to you. Kasi parang... wala lang, diba parang hindi "love" yun, kasi parte naman ng love ang "care" at yung "fulfillment" na natatanggap mo kapag nagmamahal ka diba?
Hmmmm... share na kayo ng unrequited love stories nyo! Tas gawa tayo ng E-Book! Tas ipakalat natin sa buong sang-ka-internet-an! Game?!
-- yes it is.
ReplyDelete-- ambigat ng selfless love. hindi ko keri.
-- haha ayoko nga! ayokong ipagkalat yun sa buong mundo. hindi ako si gretchen. haha!
Unrequited Love is the smell of melted chocolates on my fingertips.
ReplyDeleteGame. =))
ReplyDeleteShare na! Pwede namang anonymous writer, or pseudonym! I'm sure a lot of people have a lot of things to share. =)
ReplyDeleteyiiih.pressure.yuck.ay nako.ayoko na ng thread na ito.no to strong emotions pa naman ako these days.haha
ReplyDeleteI repeat: It is human nature to expect. And "what we call human nature in actuality is human habit (Jewel, 1997)."
ReplyDeleteNyarmdiddlydum. :))
jm what's this? epekto ba to ng boredom? haha joke lang. ;-)
ReplyDeletehmmm unrequited love? it's an aftermath of freewill, and since we can't do anything about it, we have to deal with it.
the loved person chooses not to love you, and you choose to love. so let's blame freewill kasi yun talaga ang may kasalanan ng lahat. haha.
haha don't like. too personal. not just for me but for the guy as well. =P
ReplyDeletepenny for your thoughts but a dollar for your insights. oh, a fortune for your disaster. haha. lines sa kanta ng fob yan. wala lang. gusto ko lang ishare.
ReplyDeletegrabe, jm! bat mo naman naisip yan? sabi ng religion prof ko, si God lang daw ang dapat bansagan na kayang magbigay ng unconditional love. kasi kung may inaasahan, may hinihingi, at kung hindi tunay o perpekto ang pagmamahal, hindi na daw yun unconditional. and alam naman natin na kinakabit ang konsepto na ito kapag unrequited love na ang pinaguusapan. kasi nga aasa ka ng aasa, may gusto ka talaga i-achieve kaya yung pagmamahal na ibinibigay mo, may kundisyon talaga yan.
malay ko kung naimpluwensyahan ako ng ganung mentalidad. pero hindi rin ako naniniwala na may unconditional love. siguro, levels of love and what you can give lang. kasi, imo, love will always be selfish somehow.
kung ikaw nagbigay ng love at di nabalik, i call it frustration and a waste of time. kung ikaw ay hinihingan ng pagmamahal ng taong di mo mahal at sinisisi na marami naman siyang ginawa sayo, "bakit di mo rin ako mahalin?", ipa-botter mo na. haynako. naiinis ako sa ganyang logic. hindi mo naman hiningi yun di ba? siya kusa nagbigay? bakit ka nya ngayon sinisisi sa naging desisyon nya?
ang masaklap ay kung nagmahalan kayo at marami kayong nagawa sa isa't isa.. tapos sa wala rin aabot. mafeefeel mo na parang "bad investment" ang relasyon niyo. dun mo siguro masisisi ang sarili at yung kabilang party sa mga pinaggagawa mo kasi for some time, pareho niyong ginawa at hiningi. pero at least, damayan kayo.
SOLD! XD This is why you are my bestest beloved buddee in the whole wide universe! :D
ReplyDeletePasok sa banga! Ba't pa ba ko nag-sum-up sum-up. Inintay ko na lang sana comment mo. =))
ReplyDeletehugs!
ReplyDeletekumento lang din tungkol sa post-modern couples. binder, dandat. still am (er, us?) in so many ways pero after some time, narealize ko rin na cliches existed for reasons such as peace of mind. haha. ang vague pero mahaba kasi ang storya.
pasensya naman. ngayon ko lang kasi nakita :p busy-busyhan kasi lately haha
ReplyDeletePeace of mind. :)
ReplyDeleteshocks ayan binasa ko na lahat ng kumento. at isa lang ang masasabi ko. kung may mahal ka at nagmamahalan kayo kahit for this moment lang, sobrang icherish nyo (my goodness this sounds like a beauty queen speech HAHA) kasi it really is a beautiful thing. a lucky thing, actually. kasi kahit naniniwala ako sa matematika, sa tingin ko ay hindi macocompute gamit ang probability kung pareho niyo bang mamahalin ang isa't isa, isama mo na ang factor of time and space dyan.
ReplyDelete:(( i feel so loved tuloy! i'm so happy! i love my gelo! (kailangan talaga ipasok e :p)
kunwari pang wala lang..the fact that you posted it means na may something ka about unrequited love...
ReplyDeleteok lang yung unrequited kasi love can exist even if its one-way
relationship lang naman ang dapat two-way
what?! hmm...ako hindi ako happy na mahalin lang siya sa tabi, sa gilid, or kung saan pa mang sulok yan. mas magandang ipahayag mo na ang feelings mo sa kanya, at least may ginawa ka. ngayon, kung hindi niya sinusuklian ang pagmamahal na inilalaan mo, KAWALAN NA NIYA YUN, HINDI MO KAWALAN YUN. aba, bakit, meron bang makakapagmahal sa kanya ng gaya ng pagmamahal mo sa kanya? hmm...maaari ngang oo. pero ang pagmamahal mo sa taong mahal mo ay parang thumb mark...it's unique. maybe may intertextuality na maaaring mag-exist when it comes to loving the person you love kung ikukumpara sa iba. pero hindi rin kasi talaga. you have your own tactics. you love him in your own way in your own terms.
ReplyDeletethis post is here to spite me. O_O
ReplyDeleteIt's even sneering at us. O_o
ReplyDeletekanya-kanya namang preference yan.
ReplyDeletekaya ko namang ipahayag at ibalandra na mahal ko siya. kaya kung sa kaya. pero i chose not to, dahil alam ko na una, hindi ganoon ang gusto niya; pangalawa, may mahal/gusto siyang iba; at pangatlo, pasintabi kay colbie callait, it's not the same if he doesn't feel it too... i can't spell it out for him.
Hindi niya kawalan ang hindi pagpansin sa pagmamahal ko sa kanya kasi in the first place, he was never mine. Hindi niya kawalan dahil hindi niya alam. Hindi niya kawalan kasi kahit sabihin ko, hindi naman iyon ang magpapasaya sa kanya, at hindi naman niya ito tatanggapin.
Ayokong isipin na wala nang magmamahal sa kanya ng higit pa sa gina[ga]wa ko dahil gusto ko siyang maging masaya.
Mas una ang kaligayahan niya bago ang lahat. Kasi alam ko, na kapag siya ang nasaktan, mas masasaktan ako.
Tagus-tagusan, Els! Tama, tama.
ReplyDeleteAt oo, "kapag siya na ang nasaktan, mas masasaktan ako (Cansino, 2008)."
HAHAHA. ganun talaga. tama naman, di ba? :D
ReplyDeleteshare ko lang yung sinabi ni marco:
ReplyDelete"Sometimes, we just have to let go of someone who matters to us not because we have to, but because it's the right thing to do. Let us remember that we can't force anyone to love us. We can't beg someone to stay when s/he wants to leave and be with someone else. This is what love is all about. However, the end of love is not the end of life. It should be the beginning of understanding that love leaves for a reason, but leaves with a lesson."
i guess magkaiba tayo ng danas.
ReplyDeletehmm...sabihin na lang natin na ang swerte ng mga indibidwal na naunang magpahayag ng pagmamahal, at nataong napakabait ng minamahal niya para mag-reciprocate...kahit sa kakaunting paraan.
long thread. interesting reactions. :)
ReplyDeleteyou're 74-pence none the richer.